Total Soccer 2000 - game speed

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Total Soccer 2000 - game speed

Postby avening » Mon Feb 08, 2016 10:20 pm

Hi,

I have weird problem with Total Soccer 2000. I use last version of nGlide (1.05).

When I have option "3Dfx logo splash screen" on, everything is fine. Game runs in normal speed as it should. But when I disable this option and launch game there is possibility that game will randomly run in "slow/fast" mode. Going through menu or playing match is slower/faster than normal. Maybe I could make video with this.

Of course it's not problem to have logo splash screen enabled, but still it's weird.

Any ideas? :)

My computer: Intel Core i5 4590s, 8 GB RAM, GTX 750Ti, Windows 10 64-bit

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Re: Total Soccer 2000 - game speed

Postby Zeus » Sat Feb 13, 2016 5:20 pm

I cannot reproduce the problem, the game works exactly the same with/without splash logo on my Win10. :roll:

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Re: Total Soccer 2000 - game speed

Postby avening » Sun Feb 14, 2016 5:22 pm

Hi,

on my desktop computer this situation occured irregularly. When this happened first time I tried to restart computer and after that it was fine, so restart helped. But this solution wasn't optimal. So I tried to change every single nGlide option and found out that 3Dfx logo splash screen option (on/off) affects game behavior.

On my notebook this situation occurs regurarly (I was able to record it). You can see it on links below:

3Dfx logo on:
http://www.relaxhosting.cz/avening/_moj ... h_logo.avi

3Dfx logo off:
http://www.relaxhosting.cz/avening/_moj ... t_logo.avi

How I said it's not big deal but I can't understand how this option can affects the game speed :)

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Re: Total Soccer 2000 - game speed

Postby Zeus » Sun Feb 14, 2016 5:43 pm


Wow, what the heck is this?

avening wrote:I can't understand how this option can affects the game speed :)

Me neither.

Post your notebook detailed specs and test the game on it with nGlide 1.04 and 1.03.
Also, send me your game executable.

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Re: Total Soccer 2000 - game speed

Postby avening » Sun Feb 14, 2016 7:13 pm

Thanks for fast reply.

I uninstalled nGlide 1.05 from notebook and tried v.1.03. Game runs normal with both logo options. Same with v.1.04.

Finally I installed v.1.05 again and it also runs normal with both options. I restarted notebook after each (un)installation so I will try to check behavior after some time of work with Windows.

I let you know about progress :)

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Re: Total Soccer 2000 - game speed

Postby avening » Mon Feb 22, 2016 6:16 pm

Hi,

so after some testing on desktop computer problem still ocurrs (also with 1.03 and 1.04 version of nGlide)

Here is link on packed game:
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Re: Total Soccer 2000 - game speed

Postby rkk » Tue Feb 23, 2016 1:21 am

Could the speed issue I had in Sub Culture be related to this one? (Topic: viewtopic.php?f=10&t=878). Still couldn't solve it, but I noticed the speed of the game was proportional to the CPU clock in that moment (Low CPU clock = Super Fast Game Speed, High CPU clock = Super Slow Game). Have you tried changing your CPU clock? (By switching between Performance Mode and Power Saving mode should be enough to see the difference)


EDIT:
What is "tsdebug.txt"? There are some pretty errors..

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[05.03.12 21:28:14]  V 1.52
[05.03.12 21:28:14]  Invalid floating point operation
[05.03.12 21:28:14]  0042E2F1
[08.03.12 16:17:13]  3DFX 1.52
[08.03.12 16:17:13]  Access violation at address 00000000. Read of address 00000000
[08.03.12 16:17:13]  00000000
[08.03.12 16:17:23]  3DFX 1.52
[08.03.12 16:17:23]  Access violation at address 00000000. Read of address 00000000
[08.03.12 16:17:23]  00000000
[08.03.12 16:17:30]  V 1.52
[08.03.12 16:17:30]  Invalid floating point operation
[08.03.12 16:17:30]  0042E2F1
[08.03.12 16:17:39]  V 1.52
[08.03.12 16:17:39]  Invalid floating point operation
[08.03.12 16:17:39]  0042E2F1
[09.03.12 00:40:25]  V 1.52
[09.03.12 00:40:25]  Invalid floating point operation
[09.03.12 00:40:25]  0042E2F1
[13.03.12 21:04:56]  V 1.52
[13.03.12 21:04:56]  Invalid floating point operation
[13.03.12 21:04:56]  0042E2F1
[14.03.12 12:54:43]  V 1.52
[14.03.12 12:54:43]  Invalid floating point operation
[14.03.12 12:54:43]  0042E2F1
[18.03.12 00:23:22]  3DFX 1.52
[18.03.12 00:23:22]  Division by zero
[18.03.12 00:23:22]  004316B8
[18.03.12 00:23:49]  3DFX 1.52
[18.03.12 00:23:49]  Division by zero
[18.03.12 00:23:49]  004316B8
[19.03.12 12:55:49]  3DFX 1.52
[19.03.12 12:55:49]  Division by zero
[19.03.12 12:55:49]  004316B8
[19.03.12 12:56:32]  3DFX 1.52
[19.03.12 12:56:32]  Division by zero
[19.03.12 12:56:32]  004316B8
[24/01/16 10:57:17]  3DFX 1.52
[24/01/16 10:57:17]  Access violation at address 00000000. Read of address 00000000
[24/01/16 10:57:17]  00000000
[24/01/16 10:57:26]  3DFX 1.52
[24/01/16 10:57:26]  Access violation at address 00000000. Read of address 00000000
[24/01/16 10:57:26]  00000000
[24/01/16 10:57:28]  3DFX 1.52
[24/01/16 10:57:28]  Access violation at address 00000000. Read of address 00000000
[24/01/16 10:57:28]  00000000
[27/01/16 19:37:00]  3DFX 1.52
[27/01/16 19:37:00]  Access violation at address 00000000. Read of address 00000000
[27/01/16 19:37:00]  00000000
[27/01/16 22:42:26]  3DFX 1.52
[27/01/16 22:42:26]  Access violation at address 00000000. Read of address 00000000
[27/01/16 22:42:26]  00000000
[27/01/16 22:43:15]  3DFX 1.52
[27/01/16 22:43:15]  Access violation at address 00000000. Read of address 00000000
[27/01/16 22:43:15]  00000000
[27/01/16 22:44:34]  3DFX 1.52
[27/01/16 22:44:34]  Access violation at address 00000000. Read of address 00000000
[27/01/16 22:44:34]  00000000
[27/01/16 22:45:21]  3DFX 1.52
[27/01/16 22:45:21]  Access violation at address 00000000. Read of address 00000000
[27/01/16 22:45:21]  00000000
[27/01/16 22:45:27]  3DFX 1.52
[27/01/16 22:45:27]  Access violation at address 00000000. Read of address 00000000
[27/01/16 22:45:27]  00000000
[27/01/16 22:47:02]  3DFX 1.52
[27/01/16 22:47:02]  Access violation at address 00000000. Read of address 00000000
[27/01/16 22:47:02]  00000000
[27/01/16 22:48:17]  3DFX 1.52
[27/01/16 22:48:17]  Access violation at address 00000000. Read of address 00000000
[27/01/16 22:48:17]  00000000
[27/01/16 22:48:22]  3DFX 1.52
[27/01/16 22:48:22]  Access violation at address 00000000. Read of address 00000000
[27/01/16 22:48:22]  00000000
[27/01/16 22:48:23]  3DFX 1.52
[27/01/16 22:48:23]  Access violation at address 00000000. Read of address 00000000
[27/01/16 22:48:23]  00000000
[27/01/16 22:48:25]  3DFX 1.52
[27/01/16 22:48:25]  Access violation at address 00000000. Read of address 00000000
[27/01/16 22:48:25]  00000000
[27/01/16 22:50:22]  3DFX 1.52
[27/01/16 22:50:22]  Access violation at address 00000000. Read of address 00000000
[27/01/16 22:50:22]  00000000
[27/01/16 22:50:34]  3DFX 1.52
[27/01/16 22:50:34]  Access violation at address 00000000. Read of address 00000000
[27/01/16 22:50:34]  00000000
[27/01/16 22:50:44]  3DFX 1.52
[27/01/16 22:50:44]  Access violation at address 00000000. Read of address 00000000
[27/01/16 22:50:44]  00000000
[27/01/16 22:58:54]  3DFX 1.52
[27/01/16 22:58:54]  Access violation at address 00000000. Read of address 00000000
[27/01/16 22:58:54]  00000000
[27/01/16 23:03:09]  3DFX 1.52
[27/01/16 23:03:09]  Access violation at address 00000000. Read of address 00000000
[27/01/16 23:03:09]  00000000
[27/01/16 23:05:49]  3DFX 1.52
[27/01/16 23:05:49]  Access violation at address 00000000. Read of address 00000000
[27/01/16 23:05:49]  00000000
[07/02/16 20:15:18]  3DFX 1.53
[07/02/16 20:15:18]  Access violation at address 00000000. Read of address 00000000
[07/02/16 20:15:18]  00000000
[07/02/16 20:15:23]  3DFX 1.53
[07/02/16 20:15:23]  Access violation at address 00000000. Read of address 00000000
[07/02/16 20:15:23]  00000000

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Re: Total Soccer 2000 - game speed

Postby avening » Tue Feb 23, 2016 6:01 pm

Hi,

I don't know what errors are in this tsdebug file. Maybe attempts to run game without any glide wrapper (I was testing several types).

Game runs fast even if processor is in idle (0,78 GHz) before launching. Only thing that affects game speed is option in nGlide "3Dfx logo splash screen" on/off.

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Re: Total Soccer 2000 - game speed

Postby Gamecollector » Tue Feb 23, 2016 11:41 pm

IMHO - it's SpeedStep or something similar.
The game starts with the CPU on low-clock, calibrate the speed then the CPU switch to the full speed mode and the game is too fast.
If you have 3dfx logo - CPU switch when this logo is active and the calibration is correct.
Disable all CPU downclock features and try again w/o the logo.
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